Legislature(2011 - 2012)BARNES 124

03/16/2012 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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+ HB 218 PRESCRIPTION DRUG SPECIALTY TIERS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 259 PHARMACY AUDITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
            HB 218-PRESCRIPTION DRUG SPECIALTY TIERS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:21:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  218, "An Act prohibiting an insurer  from using a                                                               
drug   formulary  system   of  specialty   tiers  under   certain                                                               
circumstances."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:22:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET  OGAN, Staff,  House Health  and Social  Services Committee                                                               
(HSS),   Representative   Wes   Keller,   Chair,   Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of Representative  Wes Keller, Chair, HSS,                                                               
stated  that  specialty medications  are  used  to treat  complex                                                               
chronic diseases continue  to be the fastest  growing segments of                                                               
overall drug  spend.  While  traditional drug spend slowed  to an                                                               
increase of only  1.5 percent in 2008 - and  she believed that it                                                               
is  up to  16.3  percent  - specially  drug  spend continued  its                                                               
steady  climb increasing  up  to 15.4  percent.  This bill  would                                                               
protect patients  with critical illnesses from  sudden changes in                                                               
their   drug   treatment   and  therapy   protocols   which   may                                                               
unexpectedly deprive  the patient from critical  therapies due to                                                               
the inability  to pay  for the  drug or  sufficient time  to plan                                                               
alternative financial or therapeutic strategies.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. OGAN  continued.  Currently,  insurance companies  can change                                                               
their  reimbursement policies  with only  a 30-day  notice, often                                                               
forcing the patient to absorb  thousands of dollars of unexpected                                                               
costs for  expensive specialty  drug therapy.   By  extending the                                                               
notification period the savings for  the patient will be absorbed                                                               
by the rest of the policyholders on  the plan.  This may give the                                                               
patient additional time to explore  other options which may allow                                                               
for  a  transition  to  a   more  affordable  plan  with  similar                                                               
therapeutic results.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. OGAN  continued.   Without these  specialty drugs  quality of                                                               
life deteriorates  and long-term  health care cost  may increase.                                                               
Additionally, cost  savings may be achieved  by exploring options                                                               
like   management   through   specialty  pharmacies   that   drug                                                               
utilization monitoring  specifically designed for hard  to manage                                                               
conditions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OGAN explained  that this  bill would  extend the  insurance                                                               
company  notification period  to  within 90  days  to inform  the                                                               
insured that when  these drugs go from one tier  to another tier.                                                               
Specifically, insurance  used to pay  a flat pay  for medication;                                                               
however tier 4 drugs became  a co-insurance drug, which means the                                                               
drug recipient pays  a percentage of the drug cost.   If the drug                                                               
costs $4,000 retail,  the recipient will pay at  least 30 percent                                                               
or $1,200 out of pocket.   She related that this bill elevates an                                                               
awareness of this  change to allow people  with chronic illnesses                                                               
to plan ahead for these changes in their therapies.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:26:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON said he reviewed  letters of opposition in                                                               
members'  packets.   He asked  for  driving forces  for those  in                                                               
support of the bill and those opposing HB 218.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. OGAN  answered that some  individuals are  adversely affected                                                               
by the  tier 4  prescription drug  costs. The  Multiple Sclerosis                                                               
Society is  assisting with  the bill,  since specialty  drugs are                                                               
typically injectable ones used by  patients with chronic diseases                                                               
such as multiple sclerosis (MS).   The tier 4 drugs are expensive                                                               
to  manufacture and  the costs  affect many  people with  chronic                                                               
diseases.   The  sponsor  would  like to  find  a  balance.   She                                                               
recapped  that  the  driving  force  behind  the  bill  has  been                                                               
chronically  ill patients  have  found themselves  in an  awkward                                                               
position  and do  not  have the  funds  or the  time  to find  an                                                               
alternative therapy.   She listed some people affected  by tier 4                                                               
drugs  are those  with chronic  illnesses or  diseases, including                                                               
those with MS, rheumatoid arthritis, cancer, and hemophilia.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:28:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  asked whether  this problem is  the result                                                               
of a recent change.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. OGAN answered  that tiering occurred in 2006  by Medicare and                                                               
since then  other insurers have  reflected the  Medicare changes.                                                               
She pointed out that Medicare has  a cap, but private insurers do                                                               
not have  a cap, although  some patients may  reach out-of-pocket                                                               
deductibles ranging from $5,000 to $10,000.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:29:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  related her understanding that  this issue                                                               
has started to emerge in Alaska.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. OGAN answered yes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES referred  to Section 3 of the  bill, to the                                                               
language   on   lines   21-22,   which   read,"...cost   sharing,                                                               
deductibles, or  copayment obligations  are determined  by unique                                                               
categories or special tiers...."   She asked whether the language                                                               
will be clear enough to distinguish.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. OGAN  answered yes.   In  further response  to Representative                                                               
Holmes, Ms. Ogan  agreed that specialty tiers refer to  a term of                                                               
art and the term is clearly understood.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:29:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked whether the tier  refers not just to  the drug                                                               
but the dollar value of the prescription.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. OGAN  agreed it translates  to the  dollar value of  the tier                                                               
drugs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:30:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENDA  ROBERTSON  reported  that  her husband  has  been  taking                                                               
Copaxone,  an injectible  drug, for  over  10 years  to slow  the                                                               
progression of multiple  sclerosis (MS).  Last  June, her medical                                                               
insurer  advised   them  their   cost  of  the   daily  injection                                                               
prescription drug would increase by $1,000 per month.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
3:32:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The  committee  took  a  brief  at  ease  due  to  teleconference                                                               
reception difficulties.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBERTSON gave a brief history.   She recapped that last June                                                               
the pharmacy,  a specialty  pharmacy, wanted  to let  her husband                                                               
know  that his  copay had  gone  up from  $30 per  month to  over                                                               
$1,000 per month.   She offered that his initial  reaction was to                                                               
tell her  he wanted to  stop taking  his medication.   The family                                                               
had paid  the insurance premiums  faithfully, but now  found they                                                               
were  facing  unbelievable  expenses.   She  described  that  the                                                               
family has learned  to live with MS, the  challenges this disease                                                               
brings  to  their lives,  and  their  attempts to  do  everything                                                               
possible to  keep her husband  healthy.  Since his  diagnosis, he                                                               
has worked to  push through the disease and  be self-reliant, she                                                               
stated.    He  still  works  and  has  never  asked  for  special                                                               
treatment, but  he also did  not expect  to be penalized  for his                                                               
illness.    He has  no  choice;  however,  others with  the  same                                                               
insurance  have affordable  choices.   He expected  parity.   The                                                               
practice of  specialty tiering discriminates among  those who are                                                               
the sickest  and puts their lives  in danger.  She  asked members                                                               
to imagine being  diagnosed with such a  debilitating disease and                                                               
the ensuing  suffering only  to be told  the one  medication that                                                               
could keep  them functioning  is financially out  of reach.   She                                                               
said, "That  is unfair and  unconscionable."  Raising  the amount                                                               
that people must pay for  a lifesaving medication with no generic                                                               
option or  alternative by over  several thousand percent  with no                                                               
notice is  outrageous.  She  thinks people should be  outraged to                                                               
hear their  story.   This committee  represents her  husband, her                                                               
family, and other  thousands of Alaskans who are in  danger.  She                                                               
predicted that  insurance companies will tell  the committee they                                                               
need to  save money.   She  said she is  sympathetic to  the drug                                                               
companies, but realizing  their savings on the backs  of the most                                                               
vulnerable Alaskans cannot be moral or ethical.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:36:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBERTSON stated  that often these patients are  the ones who                                                               
push through  their hardships, working,  and contributing  to the                                                               
state's  economy.   Several states  have banned  the practice  of                                                               
using specialty tiers  and many others are  addressing this issue                                                               
by  placing  a  cap  on  a patient's  annual  expenditure.    She                                                               
predicted that  when these Alaskans  with chronic  illnesses lose                                                               
their  jobs  because  they  can  no  longer  afford  the  tier  4                                                               
prescription drugs, the insurance  companies will save money, but                                                               
the state  will ultimately have to  pick up the costs  which will                                                               
increase  over the  long run.    She and  others testifying  hope                                                               
members  will  support the  bill,  which  will require  a  90-day                                                               
notification  period  before  changing  someone  from  co-pay  to                                                               
specialty tier  coinsurance.  She  further hoped this would  be a                                                               
first  step to  help the  chronically ill  patients manage  their                                                               
medical expenses.   She pointed  out that  in 90 days  there will                                                               
still  not be  a generic  drug, any  alternative, or  any choice;                                                               
however, she also  hopes her testimony will shed a  light on this                                                               
issue  and down  the road  the  state can  do even  more to  help                                                               
protect the chronically  ill from being further  victimized.  She                                                               
encouraged members to  research what some other  states are doing                                                               
to protect their chronically ill citizens.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:38:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM  FREEBURG,  Advocacy  Director, National  Multiple  Sclerosis                                                               
Society, Greater Northwest Chapter,  reiterated the comments made                                                               
by Ms.  Robertson.  He  stated that  this initiative is  of great                                                               
concern  to  National Multiple  Sclerosis  Society  (NMSS).   The                                                               
organization has been seeing this  trend become more prevalent in                                                               
the nation.  He encouraged the  legislature to help the NMSS take                                                               
some steps to  increase transparency around the  use of specialty                                                               
tiers and move towards the  complete elimination of tier drugs in                                                               
the future.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  recalled Ms. Robertson  mentioning trends.                                                               
She explained one  approach to address the problem  is to require                                                               
a noticing period,  but some states are going to  an outright ban                                                               
on specialty tiers, while still others  are placing a cap on out-                                                               
of-pocket  expenditures.   She inquired  as to  whether he  had a                                                               
sense of how many states were choosing each of these remedies.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. FREEBURG said he did not  have figures for all of states, but                                                               
offered to  research this.   He  explained that  New York  is the                                                               
first state  to adopt an outright  ban and he offered  his belief                                                               
that Vermont has  a one-year ban on specialty tiers.   He related                                                               
other states  are still  considering which  approach is  the best                                                               
one to take.  He stated  that this issue may be addressed through                                                               
the  essential health  benefits package  as part  of the  federal                                                               
PPACA.  Each  state may have an opportunity to  address the issue                                                               
through that process.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  related her understanding that  states are                                                               
still in the early stages of deciding the best approach.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. FREEBURG answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:41:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON   asked  for  clarification  on   actions  taken  in                                                               
California and Washington.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FREEBURG  answered that  a  bill  is before  the  Washington                                                               
legislature  that would  prohibit specialty  tiers, but  the bill                                                               
has not moved forward.  He  said he hoped to address this through                                                               
the  essential health  benefits package.   Montana's  legislature                                                               
meets biennially  so this issue  has not been brought  forth yet,                                                               
but he hopes to  do so in 2013.  He related  the growing trend is                                                               
to treat more  and more illnesses and  diseases with prescription                                                               
drugs  rather than  procedures.   He said  insurers are  somewhat                                                               
slow to catch  up to this and realize their  coverage for medical                                                               
treatments  have   been  traditionally  generous,  but   not  for                                                               
pharmacy benefits,  in part, because in  the last 10 to  20 years                                                               
not as many  treatments have been available  via prescription for                                                               
the  chronically ill  MS patients.   He  offered his  belief that                                                               
this  trend will  continue  as  pharmaceutical companies  improve                                                               
drugs to treat difficult conditions such as MS.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:43:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER referred to  members' packets with respect                                                               
to  tiers 4  and  5  as specialty  tiers  and  asked for  further                                                               
clarification.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. FREEBURG  answered that  tier 1 is  typically a  generic drug                                                               
with a small $3-5 copay.  Tier  2 would be a preferred brand name                                                               
drug, and  tier non-preferred brand  name drug, which  is usually                                                               
the  result  of  a  negotiation   between  the  insurer  and  the                                                               
pharmaceutical  companies.   These drugs  are also  increasing in                                                               
price;  however  the specialty  tier  4  drugs typically  have  a                                                               
coinsurance percentage amount.  Thus tier  3 may be $30 copay but                                                               
tier 4  would range from  30 to 50 percent  coinsurance payments.                                                               
He characterized the  cost passed on to the patient  as a drastic                                                               
increase, which has  pushed the responsibility for  the drug cost                                                               
to the consumer.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  related his  understanding that  the cost                                                               
moves  from a  dollar cost  to a  percentage basis  as the  tiers                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FREEBURG  agreed.   In  further  response to  Representative                                                               
Saddler,  Mr. Freeburg  explained that  he thinks  the difference                                                               
between tier  4 and  tier 5  drugs will  result in  an increasing                                                               
percentage, perhaps 30 percent and  50 percent, respectively.  He                                                               
related his  understanding it would  likely be based on  the cost                                                               
of the drug  or its relative efficacy compared to  other drugs in                                                               
within  a similar  class.   He offered  his belief  that Medicare                                                               
defines specialty drugs  as those costing more than  $600, but an                                                               
outright ban  would not  fully address  the problem  patients are                                                               
experiencing.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:45:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  asked  whether health  care  plans  have                                                               
backup  insurance guarding  against an  increase in  prescription                                                               
drugs, similar to a rider.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FREEBURG answered  that  he  did not  know.    He said  that                                                               
frequently  prescription   drug  costs  are  not   capped  as  it                                                               
typically happens with medical benefit caps.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON suggested that the  high-risk insurance pool includes                                                               
prescription drugs,  but the pool  is primarily used  by patients                                                               
with pre-existing  conditions.  He further  suggested some delays                                                               
are happening in  anticipation of the pending  U.S. Supreme Court                                                               
decision  in  the  Patient Protection  and  Affordable  Care  Act                                                               
(PPACA).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FREEBURG  agreed.    He  also thought  there  is  a  limited                                                               
bandwidth to  tackle this complicated  issue.  He  identified the                                                               
insurers as  the middleman.   He has  viewed increased  prices by                                                               
pharmaceutical companies.    Additionally, some of  the drugs are                                                               
somewhat  new  so  treatments  and   best  use  are  still  being                                                               
identified.  He suggested that  it is also difficult for diseases                                                               
such as  MS since the  effect varies from  person to person.   He                                                               
was  unsure  about how  this  fits  in  for cancer  or  arthritis                                                               
treatments.   In New York the  specialty tiers were not  in place                                                               
prior  to the  bill  being passed  so insurers  did  not have  to                                                               
change anything.   He expressed  concern that if nothing  is done                                                               
more and  more specialty tiers will  occur and at that  point the                                                               
cost increases will  be too significant to have an  impact, so if                                                               
the problem can  be resolved early on it will  be somewhat easier                                                               
to deal with.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:48:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked whether  the higher tiers  of drugs                                                               
are more  effective or if the  price is due to  stratification or                                                               
bracketing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FREEBURG   answered  that  it   varies  from   condition  to                                                               
condition.  He stated that no  other drugs are available to treat                                                               
MS except  specialty drugs to  treat the underlying disease.   He                                                               
said  he  was  unsure  how that  applies  to  cancer,  rheumatoid                                                               
arthritis, or hemophilia.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether any  tier 2 or 3 drugs could                                                               
address MS or if MS must be treated with tier 4 and 5 drugs.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FREEBURG  answered that MS drugs  could be placed on  tier 3,                                                               
but insurers choose to place the drugs on tier 4 or 5.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked whether  it is more  of a  price or                                                               
coverage issues.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. FREEBURG agreed.  He said  the insurers may tell you they are                                                               
trying to look  at the efficacy for differences  drugs within the                                                               
same class, but that is not the case for MS.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:50:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON asked  how long  New York  has prohibited                                                               
specialty tiers.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FREEBURG offered  his belief  the  ban went  into effect  in                                                               
2010.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON stated  that if  the copayment  stays low                                                               
the additional  cost will be  a shared cost.   He inquired  as to                                                               
how much  of an  increase would  be spread  per individual  in an                                                               
insured group.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FREEBURG  answered  that a  California  study  attempted  to                                                               
answer  this question.   He  referred  to a  summary in  members'                                                               
packets prepared by committee staff.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  said he would  like the information.   He                                                               
related his understanding  that someone will bear the  cost so he                                                               
is wondering what the cost will  be for the average consumer.  He                                                               
said it may  be minimal and the size of  the program would likely                                                               
mitigate some  of those.   He thought  that the  smaller programs                                                               
would be more affected than the larger groups.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:51:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  characterized  the  pending decision  in  the  U.S.                                                               
Supreme  Court case  as the  "900-pound gorilla"  and until  that                                                               
case is  settled and everyone  knows the operating rules  that it                                                               
is extremely difficult to get projections from the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHEELA  TALLMAN, Manager,  Legislative Affairs,  Blue Cross  Blue                                                               
Shield of Alaska  [Premera], spoke in opposition to HB  218.  She                                                               
pointed out that she has provided  the committee with a memo that                                                               
outlines the  concerns Blue Cross  Blue Shield [Premera]  as well                                                               
as some  conceptual amendments that  might be considered  as part                                                               
of this  discussion.  She  provided some  background information.                                                               
She  stated  that  specialty  drugs make  it  possible  to  treat                                                               
diseases  for which  there  are few  available  therapies.   They                                                               
provide new options for patient  treatments.  The specialty drugs                                                               
are   one  of   the  fastest   growing  parts   of  the   overall                                                               
pharmaceutical benefits.   She  said less  than three  percent of                                                               
specialty pharmaceuticals,  but represents  25-30 percent  of the                                                               
total   payor  medical   costs.     She  indicated   this  is   a                                                               
significantly  growing area  impacting costs  and employers  have                                                               
recognized  this  and  want to  offer  pharmaceuticals  it  their                                                               
employees  yet  want  to  make  it more  affordable.    Thus  the                                                               
employer  wants to  make  the overall  coverage  and continue  to                                                               
provide  these  benefits.     The  focus  really   should  be  on                                                               
encouraging pharmaceutical  companies to develop  generic options                                                               
for the specialty  drugs to make it more affordable  for a larger                                                               
number of  people.    Premera offers  a 3-tier or  4-tier benefit                                                               
option for  members.   Some of  the plans  can offer  an optional                                                               
backstop  such as  an out  of pocket  maximum for  prescriptions.                                                               
She  understood  the  importance of  transparency  and  providing                                                               
consumers accurate  information about  their benefits and  out of                                                               
pocket   costs.     The  Premera   currently  provides   detailed                                                               
information  about  benefits  upon application  and  renewal  for                                                               
individuals and employer groups.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:55:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN explained this includes  information on cost sharing,                                                               
deductibles,  and copayment  terms applicable  to pharmacies  and                                                               
specialty pharmacies tier.  This  information is provided 30 days                                                               
prior  to when  the terms  apply.   The Premera  provides another                                                               
notice  when any  changes occur  to  the plan  formularies.   She                                                               
provided  an  example,  such  as  when  a  generic  drug  becomes                                                               
available,  which  would  shift  an  existing  brand  drug  to  a                                                               
different  tier.   The Premera  sends  members a  notice 30  days                                                               
prior to  the change.   The Premera  notifies members by  mail 45                                                               
days of  any changes that may  impact their rate.   She expressed                                                               
concerns  that  this bill  requires  a  90-day notice  timeframe,                                                               
which  would  impact  the application  and  renewal  cycle  since                                                               
Premera  would  need  to  provide  information  much  further  in                                                               
advance of the  effective date.  The notice  requirement would be                                                               
duplicative  to  current processes  just  described  and the  new                                                               
federal health care reform requirement.   This would add cost and                                                               
could  create  confusion  when members  receive  several  notices                                                               
about  their benefits.    She explained  the  requirement in  the                                                               
Patient Protection  and Affordable  Care Act (PPACA).   Beginning                                                               
on   September  23,   2012,   insurers   must  provide   specific                                                               
information to members  about their coverage and  benefits.  This                                                               
includes a very specific breakdown  of the generic drug tier, the                                                               
preferred brand drug tier, the  non-preferred and specialty tier.                                                               
Additionally,  for  each  tier,  the  Premera  must  provide  the                                                               
specific  cost sharing  requirements.   This information  must be                                                               
provided  at initial  application, renewal,  and upon  request by                                                               
the individuals.   Further, the Premera must also  provide a mid-                                                               
year  notice  triggered by  any  changes  to  the four  tiers  to                                                               
members  at least  60 days  prior to  the effective  date of  the                                                               
changes.   She pointed  out that this  requirement will  apply to                                                               
all  plans, including  the  grandfathered, the  non-grandfathered                                                               
plans, individual  groups, and self-funded plans  - including the                                                               
plan.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN answered that 50 days;  this will apply to all plans,                                                               
grandfathered,   non-grandfathered,   and  [Employee   Retirement                                                               
Income Security Act  of 1974] "ERISA" plan.   The Premera opposes                                                               
HB 218,  since it  would require  another notification  and costs                                                               
above the  ones for the  processes already  in place and  for the                                                               
new requirements under the federal PPACA.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:58:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON recalled  that the problem could  be partially solved                                                               
by  drug companies  developing generic  drugs  for the  specialty                                                               
conditions.   He said  he thought generic  drugs came  about when                                                               
the patents  expire.   Thus the generic  drugs are  not developed                                                               
but  are  regular  drugs  after  the patent  life  expires.    He                                                               
recalled specific  drugs may  have a molecule  or two  changed to                                                               
make a  new drug; however, he  did not think specialty  drugs are                                                               
developed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN said she believed he  is correct.  She suggested that                                                               
it  would be  to  work towards  reducing the  number  of years  a                                                               
patent  remains in  force to  encourage generic  alternatives are                                                               
available more quickly.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:59:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  asked whether  she  has  developed any  models  and                                                               
impacts on Blue Cross.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN answered that she has  not done a cost impact for the                                                               
increased  notification  requirements from  30  days  to 90  days                                                               
required under HB 218.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  related  his understanding  the  Premera  does  not                                                               
currently know the costs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN responded  no, that it is more  that multiple notices                                                               
will be  generated and sent  out.  She understood  Washington and                                                               
Oregon would remain at 30 days.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:00:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON suggested  the impact for Premera may  be two percent                                                               
or 15 percent, but Premera is unsure.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN  answered yes.  She  said she did not  currently have                                                               
information.  In response to  Chair Olson, she offered to provide                                                               
figures to the committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:00:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMPSON related a scenario  in which a couple has                                                               
been  paying  insurance for  20  years,  thinking it  will  cover                                                               
medical  costs.   One  of  them  gets  cancer and  the  insurance                                                               
company ends  up covering  hundreds of  thousands of  dollars for                                                               
treatments and operations.  He  asked for the effect on insurance                                                               
companies.     He  suggested   it  is   not  any   different  for                                                               
prescription  coverage  than  for  medical  coverage  for  cancer                                                               
patients.   He wondered if the  rules could just change  on copay                                                               
for  medical  coverage.    He   was  unsure  why  this  is  being                                                               
attempted.   He offered his  belief it  doesn't seem fair  to the                                                               
people who  have bought  insurance to  have coverage  and protect                                                               
their  savings.   He  pointed  out that  all  of  a sudden  their                                                               
deductibles are increased  to $1,000 or more per  month when they                                                               
have been  paying the insurance  premiums.  He  expressed concern                                                               
other unexpected  cost increases could potentially  occur besides                                                               
prescription costs.  He said he offers this as a statement.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:02:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON said  he has difficulty understanding  the problem of                                                               
changing notices  from the current  45 day requirement to  90 day                                                               
notice for Premera  under the bill.  The overall  effect would be                                                               
to increase the notice by 45  days.  He questioned the difficulty                                                               
and why this  would add significant costs for Premera.   He asked                                                               
Ms. Tallman to provide the committee  with a ball park figure for                                                               
increased costs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked for  the form  Premera will  use to                                                               
notice the increased costs.   He suggested that in his experience                                                               
that more companies have been  moving to using Internet noticing,                                                               
online  accounting,  or noticing  by  e-mail.    He asked  for  a                                                               
breakout and the  nature of the costs as part  of the information                                                               
Ms. Tallman will provide to the committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN said she would try to  do so.  She suggested that one                                                               
way is  consider the patient  would be paying a  differences rate                                                               
during  the  90  day  period  than   the  30  day  period,  so  a                                                               
differences rate structure  would occur over a  longer period and                                                               
would drive up the costs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON suggested the Division  of Insurance might be able to                                                               
answer that question but Linda Hall is not available today.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  for an  explanation as  to whether                                                               
Premera bases  its costs between tier  4 and tier 5  drugs and if                                                               
it is based on efficacy or solely on the costs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN responded  that the tier 4 drugs  are specialty drugs                                                               
typically injected and used to  treat complex medical conditions.                                                               
These   drugs  usually   require  more   specific  handling   and                                                               
involvement with the  physician so she thought  the guideline was                                                               
a  broad  guideline.    She  added that  Premera  is  looking  at                                                               
efficacy   to  provide   more  value   based  and   its  clinical                                                               
effectiveness.  That  would be another way to  develop tiers, for                                                               
example,  if two  drugs  are in  the market  but  one provides  a                                                               
better benefit such as extending their  life would be placed on a                                                               
lower tier versus a less effective  drug which would be placed on                                                               
a higher tier.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:06:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  if a  higher tier  implied a  more                                                               
effective drug.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TALLMAN answered  not currently  under the  standard system.                                                               
She pointed  out that  tier 4  is a way  to identify  those drugs                                                               
that  need special  handling and  storage  and are  ones used  to                                                               
treat more complex conditions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:07:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  related   his  understanding  that  tier                                                               
implies some additional benefit that  is a cumulative effect.  He                                                               
questioned whether  the tiers should  be considered  as different                                                               
categories of drugs.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN answered yes, that  the tiers begin with generic, the                                                               
non-preferred, followed by a brand drug.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  understood typically for tiers  that each                                                               
tier  encompasses the  previous attributes  plus a  little extra.                                                               
He asked whether a tier 6 is forthcoming.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. TALLMAN  answered that  tier 6  might be  something reviewed,                                                               
but it  is more about  providing a value-based  benefit structure                                                               
for members in  which the drugs fall into  the various categories                                                               
based on its efficacy and benefits to the member.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:07:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked for  further clarification on tiers.                                                               
He  related  his  understanding  that tiers  refer  not  just  to                                                               
handling but the value to the consumer.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TALLMAN   answered  that  is   what  Premera   is  currently                                                               
developing.  She  explained it is not out in  the marketplace but                                                               
the Premera  is focusing on  trying to categorize drugs  based on                                                               
their  quality,  value,  and effectiveness  not  necessarily  the                                                               
standard generic brand or preferred  brand.  She pointed out that                                                               
one  tier could  encompass brand  name or  generic drugs  but the                                                               
focus is on examining the effectiveness.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:08:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER understood  she  stated  the higher  tier                                                               
implied not  more effective,  but now she  is stating  the higher                                                               
tier  would  be  the  more  effective drugs.    He  said  he  was                                                               
confused.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TALLMAN  answered  that  she is  talking  about  Premera  is                                                               
currently developing the value-based categories.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:09:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WES  KELLER, Alaska State  Legislature, understood                                                               
that the tier  system was devised by Medicare in  response to the                                                               
high cost of drugs.  The real  problem is the high cost of health                                                               
care.   The tiers were  developed by Medicare to  manage payments                                                               
for  drugs and  the concept  has been  picked up  by the  private                                                               
sector.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:10:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CINDY  LAUBACHER,  Senior  Director,  State  Government  Affairs,                                                               
Medco Health Solutions,  stated that Medco is  the parent company                                                               
to the  Accredo Health  Group, which  is one  of the  largest and                                                               
leading  specialty pharmacies  in the  U.S.   The Accredo  Health                                                               
Group's clients include state employee  plans, union trust health                                                               
plans,  who generally  manage their  prescription  drug costs  by                                                               
maintaining  a  member  cost  share of  approximately  20  to  25                                                               
percent per tier,  which includes the generic tier,  tier 1, tier                                                               
2 and  so on.   In 2013, Medco's  sponsors are working  on having                                                               
approximately one percent of their  drug spend going to specialty                                                               
drugs,  which will  represent approximately  20 percent  of their                                                               
plan  costs.     She  expressed   concern  about  the   costs  of                                                               
prescription  drugs  and  in particular  specialty  drugs.    She                                                               
highlighted the  development of  generic drugs  or bio-equivalent                                                               
drugs.   She reported Medco  and Accredo  are very active  at the                                                               
federal level lobbying the Congress  to reduce the patent time on                                                               
these very expensive high-end drugs,  specifically to get generic                                                               
or  bio-equivalent drugs  to the  market  to reduce  costs.   She                                                               
highlighted  that  patients  typically  receive  benefit  notices                                                               
prior to  the start of the  benefit year, and when  changes occur                                                               
during  the  benefit  year.    She related  that  Medco  is  very                                                               
concerned  about causing  confusion since  plans must  provide 90                                                               
day,  60-day  notices,  and  potentially  another  notice.    She                                                               
reiterated that  sending numerous notices could  create confusion                                                               
in the marketplace  and among patients.  Therefore  Medco and AHG                                                               
are opposed  to the  bill.   She offered  to answer  questions on                                                               
tiers and drug costs and how to better address the issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:13:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES  said  she  is  a  little  confused  about                                                               
multiple notifications.   She referred to a  letter from Premera,                                                               
and  acknowledged that  the  testifier is  Medco,  but the  issue                                                               
raised  is the  same.    The Premera  expressed  concern that  if                                                               
federal law goes  into effect insurers must  notice their members                                                               
at least 60 days  prior to a change.  She  did not understand the                                                               
reason the notices  must be multiple notices.   She asked whether                                                               
the company  could send on notice  90 days in advance  to suffice                                                               
all the noticing.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LAUBACHER  answered  that  typically  Medco  is  drawn  into                                                               
helping  plans  manage.    She pointed  out  the  various  notice                                                               
include 90, 60, and  45 day notices.  She offered  to look at the                                                               
federal law, but  she thought the plans would still  need to send                                                               
additional notices such  as the 60 day notice  required under the                                                               
PPACA.  In response to a  question on the percentage of specialty                                                               
drugs,  she  answered  that  one  percent  of  Premera'  s  drugs                                                               
dispended under  their plan - Premera  is one of their  clients -                                                               
are specialty drugs  but provides 20 percent  of the prescription                                                               
drug  cost.   She said  it would  be whoever  is paying  for plan                                                               
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:17:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  asked if some  of the concern  is worrying                                                               
about whether the  bill would create a mandate  for more coverage                                                               
or whether it is just the notice requirement.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUBAHER  answered that the  concern is the notice  since the                                                               
bill  would  not  address  the issue  about  increased  cost  for                                                               
Copaxone.   She  reiterated  that  HB 218  only  pertains to  the                                                               
notice requirements and not the  costs.  She explained that Medco                                                               
is working  at the federal  level to reduce patent  protection to                                                               
get generic  drugs to  the market, which  should help  keep costs                                                               
down.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:18:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KELLER  has   a  hard   time  seeing   that  the                                                               
notification  is  a  huge  deal, but  has  been  concerned  about                                                               
mandates.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:19:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON surmised  that the Division of Insurance  can give 90                                                               
days' notice so long as it is prior to renewal.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUBACHER related  it has been their  experience that changes                                                               
begin  at plan  year so  prior to  the new  benefit patients  are                                                               
provided with information on copay.   She said it is uncommon and                                                               
rare for changes in copay or  insurance to occur during the year.                                                               
She checked  with Medco and it  is rare to see  rate increase mid                                                               
plan year for an  increase from $100 to $1,000 month.    She said                                                               
most of  their plan sponsors will  cap the copay.   She explained                                                               
that a person may  pay $10 to $20 per month for tier  1 or 2, but                                                               
tier  4 drugs  are usually  a percentage  such as  20-25 percent.                                                               
Typically  when  someone moves  from  copay  to coinsurance,  the                                                               
person would pay  20 percent with a cap of  $200.  She emphasized                                                               
that the  example made earlier  really surprised her.   She asked                                                               
for clarification and confirmation and  Medco and ACCREDO said it                                                               
is extraordinarily  rare for  those types  of large  increases to                                                               
happen.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:22:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked  if it would be safe to  assume the majority of                                                               
people  are  covered  by  group   plans  rather  than  individual                                                               
coverage.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LAUBACHER answered  that Medco  and Accredo  are limited  to                                                               
group  and  not individual  coverage.    She explained  that  Ms.                                                               
Robertson and her husband may be under an individual policy.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON related  that 75 percent of the plans  are renewed on                                                               
January 1 or July 1.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUBACHER  answered yes.   She confirmed the two  dates would                                                               
be the beginning of the calendar year or the fiscal year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:23:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  where the  impetus of  coinsurance                                                               
comes from and if it comes  from reinsurance or whether the Medco                                                               
is following the Medicare's lead.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUBACHER offered  to get an answer,  but generally speaking;                                                               
coinsurance is  a tool used as  an option to clients  and not all                                                               
clients  use coinsurance.    Some  choose flat  co-pays.   It  is                                                               
simply a  tool available  to clients to  assist them  in managing                                                               
their prescription  drug costs.   She offered her belief  that it                                                               
typically is used for tier 4  and specialty drugs due to the high                                                               
cost associated with specialty drugs.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:25:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SADDLER  asked   whether   the  company   offers                                                               
coinsurance for cost savings or if clients demand it.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUBACHER answered  it may be both.   She did not  know.  She                                                               
said  that typically  the  Medco  responds to  the  market.   The                                                               
clients  will  come  to  them   and  say  that  their  costs  are                                                               
skyrocketing and Medco would present coinsurance.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  offered his  belief  that  coinsurance is  used  to                                                               
ensure everyone  has a vested interest  in the cost.   He said if                                                               
something is free  it may be over utilized, but  if the client is                                                               
paying for a portion of it,  they have an interest in keeping the                                                               
cost down.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:26:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON recalled  specialty  drugs represent  one                                                               
percent of prescription  drugs filled.  He asked  how many people                                                               
that represents.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LAUBACHER  said  she  could  get answer  on  the  number  of                                                               
patients  served by  specialty  drugs. She  ventured  that it  is                                                               
typically a small market including  patients with hemophilia, MS,                                                               
and rheumatoid  arthritis.  She  was uncertain a  specific number                                                               
is available  for patients covered  by specialty.   She suggested                                                               
that it  depends on the high  cost of the particular  drugs.  She                                                               
suggested that a  plan with high incidence of  hemophiliacs but a                                                               
low  number of  persons  with  other types  of  conditions so  it                                                               
varies by plan.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:27:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked how many notices would be sent out.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUBACHER answered that the  notices must be sent to everyone                                                               
and not  just the  few patients with  hemophilia, but  rather the                                                               
notices are sent to every plan member.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON questioned  whether HB  218 requires  the                                                               
notices must be sent to every  member and not just the ones using                                                               
specialty drugs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUBACHER agreed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:27:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked whether the term  orphan drugs is what  is now                                                               
called specialty drugs.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAUBACHER offered her belief that is correct.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:28:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  JONES  stated  that  her  daughter  was  diagnosed  with                                                               
juvenile rheumatoid  arthritis when  she was 12  years old.   She                                                               
was given a  cocktail of drugs and needed to  be hospitalized two                                                               
to four  times per year.   She  quit participating in  sports and                                                               
went to high  school part time.  About two  years ago she started                                                               
on a  specialty drug that  costs $400  per week or  $1.600 month.                                                               
It was a miracle for our family.   She said that both she and her                                                               
husband have insurance.  He has been  on his job for 26 years and                                                               
has  been  contributing to  health  insurance  long before  their                                                               
daughter  was born.   She  has  been at  her present  job for  13                                                               
years.    Currently,  her  daughter  is doing  very  well.    She                                                               
graduated from  high school and is  in her first year  of college                                                               
at the  University of  Alaska Anchorage.   She has  been accepted                                                               
into  the  honors  college.    She  has  declared  her  major  as                                                               
chemistry and  wants to study medicine.   She is on  spring break                                                               
and will tour a research hospital.   She will receive a spirit of                                                               
youth award with  her work with other children  with arthritis at                                                               
Arthritis Foundation Camp.   This bill promises  90 days' notice.                                                               
She  assured  members  she  will  not  be  confused  by  multiple                                                               
notices.   She said,  "We need this  bill as a  start to  help my                                                               
daughter  and all  the  others  who need  these  drugs to  remain                                                               
productive  and  contributing  members   of  our  state  and  our                                                               
community."  She thanked members for their work on this bill.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:30:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked  how many notices she  receives in a                                                               
year  for  prescription medication  for  her  daughter or  health                                                               
insurance notices in general.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  JONES answered  that  she did  not think  there  would be  a                                                               
confusing number.   She explained  that she receives  phone calls                                                               
from  our specialty  pharmacy almost  every week.   They  are not                                                               
confusing.   She  did  admit that  in their  family  they have  a                                                               
division of labor and her husband  maintains a log.  She said she                                                               
does hear the telephone messages and  sees the mail.  She said it                                                               
is not confusing to them.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:31:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARRY CHRISTENSEN,  Pharmacist, Island Pharmacy,  Inc.; Co-Chair,                                                               
Legislative  Committee, Alaska  Pharmacists Association  (AkPhA),                                                               
answered that the Alaska Pharmacists  Association has not taken a                                                               
position on HB 218.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR OLSON asked what impacts he sees as a pharmacist.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CHRISTENSEN related  the bill  is a  notification bill.   He                                                               
acknowledged  that  sometimes  the pharmacists  are  caught  when                                                               
patient  comes  in  and  cannot afford  their  medications.    He                                                               
related  that  many  specialty   drugs  are  distributed  through                                                               
specialty pharmacies.  He expressed  concern for the patients but                                                               
the AkPhA has not taken a stand.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:33:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked for clarification on specialty pharmacies.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. CHRISTENSEN  answered that  Alaska does  not have  a regional                                                               
specialty pharmacy  but many of the  drugs require refrigeration,                                                               
which  is somewhat  problematic for  some  areas of  Alaska.   He                                                               
acknowledged that numerous specialty  pharmacies exist across the                                                               
U.S.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:34:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked whether the  pharmacies break down the drugs by                                                               
condition or by drug.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. CHRISTENSEN answered that most  specialty pharmacies handle a                                                               
variety  of  specialty drugs  and  contact  the manufacturer  for                                                               
certain  drugs.   He  acknowledged  there  could  be one  or  two                                                               
pharmacies  that  handle  one  or  two drugs.    He  related  his                                                               
understanding that the majority of  them would handle a number of                                                               
specialty drugs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:34:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked for  clarification on  who would  regulate the                                                               
specialty pharmacies.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CHRISTENSEN  answered  that specialty  pharmacies  would  be                                                               
regulated by  both state and  federal regulations.   He explained                                                               
that   the  FDA   primarily  handles   the   regulation  of   the                                                               
manufacturing of the drugs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:35:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANTONIA  FIFLIS-FOWLER, ED,  Director, Alaska  Multiple Sclerosis                                                               
Center  (AlaskaMS), in  conjunction  with  the National  Multiple                                                               
Sclerosis Society Greater Northwest  Chapter, offered her support                                                               
for HB  218.   This bill  proposes only a  simple change  from 30                                                               
days to 90 days noticing, but  could result in a major benefit of                                                               
decreased stress.   The  bill would increase  the time  to pursue                                                               
alternatives  and  other  options  for  continuing  therapy  when                                                               
patients find  themselves unable  to afford  the increase  out of                                                               
pocket  copay  or  coinsurance imposed  upon  them  unexpectedly.                                                               
Unfortunately, the stress  created by unpredictable circumstances                                                               
and increased financial obligation -  sometimes as much as $1,000                                                               
per  month  -  often  translates into  worsening  conditions  for                                                               
people with  MS, which can contribute  in then not being  able to                                                               
continue to work.    She referred to a  recent survey of Alaskans                                                               
with  MS, which  revealed that  due to  high cost  and copays  41                                                               
percent have  suffered financial strain, changed  their treatment                                                               
plan,  skipped  medication,  modified  their  dosage  or  stopped                                                               
treatment  altogether  due  to  their  inability  to  pay.    She                                                               
emphasized  that this  is exactly  what should  be avoided.   The                                                               
AlaskaMS wants  people to have  access to these medications  at a                                                               
reasonable  rate.   There are  not any  genetic alternatives  and                                                               
when people  lose access  to these  life-altering drugs  the U.S.                                                               
will be regressing 30 years.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FIFLIS-FOWLSER said  when she  was first  diagnosed with  MS                                                               
drugs were not available to treat  MS.  Young people were told to                                                               
go home and wait for the  inevitable to happen.  They were unable                                                               
to  work,  were considered  totally  disabled,  and were  put  on                                                               
Medicare.   She reiterated that people  with MS were a  burden to                                                               
society.  She  acknowledged that there still is not  any cure for                                                               
MS, but medications developed over  the past 20 years have slowed                                                               
the  progress of  the disease.   She  pointed out  that specialty                                                               
drugs are  used to  treat other  diseases and  conditions besides                                                               
MS.  She said that medications  slow the progress of the disease.                                                               
She estimated about  1,000 Alaskans have MS.  Without  HB 218 and                                                               
stronger  legislation   governing  specialty  tiering   the  most                                                               
chronically   ill  Alaskans   will   continue   to  shoulder   an                                                               
inequitable burden of  costs for their medication  drugs than the                                                               
non-preferred  brand name  drugs. She  asked members  to consider                                                               
following in New York's footsteps  and ban specialty tiers on the                                                               
grounds that  they discriminate  against people  with chronically                                                               
ill.   She  urged members  to vote  for HB  218, which  sends the                                                               
message  that  an  increase  in copay  or  coinsurance  by  25-30                                                               
percent of the cost of  the drug without significant notification                                                               
- which  she did not find  confusing - is unfair  and detrimental                                                               
to  individuals.   She  concluded  by  stating  that MS  is  life                                                               
altering enough  as are  all these diseases.   She  asked members                                                               
not to  take away tools  that help people with  chronic illnesses                                                               
to live more fully every day.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:40:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  pointed out  that the U.S.  Supreme Court  will make                                                               
decisions on the  federal PPACA and legislatures will  be on hold                                                               
until the new rules are adopted.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:40:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KELLER   thanked   members.     He   said   that                                                               
pharmaceuticals are  getting better and  better.  He said  that a                                                               
recent University  of Alaska Anchorage,  Institute of  Social and                                                               
Economic Research  (ISER) study showed total  spending for health                                                               
care in Alaska is $7.5 billion.   He said that equals half of the                                                               
earnings of  Alaskans.   He predicted the  rate of  increase will                                                               
double  in  nine  years.    He could  not  fathom  the  potential                                                               
increases.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON acknowledged the crisis.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[HB 218 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
4:42:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:42 p.m. to 4:45 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB218 ver B.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Fiscal Note-DCCED-INS-02-24-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Opposing Documents-Letter Premera 3-13-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Opposing Documents-Letter Premera 2-14-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Supporting Documents-Article Advocates for Responsible Care Specailty Tier Explanation.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Supporting Documents-CA Assembly AB 310 Fact Sheet Assemblywoman Fiona Ma Specialy Tier Drug.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Supporting Documents-Leg Research on Tier Drugs 3-9-2012.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Supporting Documents-Letter Brenda Robertson 7-13-2011.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB259 Supporting Documents-Letter of Support Richard Holm 2-24-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Supporting Documents-Response to Questions- Matthew DiLoreto 2-28-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Opposing Documents-Testimony by Eric Douglas-CVS Caremark 2-27-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Supporting Documents-Email Lara Nichols 2-28-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Amendment I.5 with Explanation.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Amendment I.2 with Explanation.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Amendment I.3 with Explanation.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Amendment I.4 with Explanation.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB218 Opposing Documents-Letter Premera 3-16-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB218 Opposing Documents-Letter Medco 3-15-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB259 Opposing Documents-Letter Medco 3-15-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Opposing Documents-Letter Express Scripts 3-16-12.PDF HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259
HB218 Opposing Documents-Proposed Amendments from Sheela Tallman 3-16-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 218
HB259 Opposing Documents-Testimony by Rose Kalamarides 3-16-12.pdf HL&C 3/16/2012 3:15:00 PM
HB 259